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Why #fpc matters

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HSN

Hello everyone this is Joanna

I discovered fpc and Lazarus around 2014. Before that I was involved with online gaming and programming bots.

I have been creating projects with fpc using Lazarus ide for a long time. Pascal is the only language I use so I have no other languages to fall back upon if the fpc project were to disappear.

I can’t emphasize enough how grateful I am that fpc and Lazarus were created. I think that there are far too many people who take the work that the developers do for granted and never think about all the long hours of their spare time that they have donated to the project.

I want the developers to live happy stress free lives so that they can continue writing good code. I wish that there was a way for me to protect the developers from grief and wasted time caused by orchestrated drama from malicious people with bad intentions.

Fpc should be enthusiastically promoted on all possible platforms and places to enable more people to discover and use it.

IRC is a good place to promote fpc because irc is a protocol which allows people to choose their own clients as well as not requiring email or cell phone. People can and have created their own irc clients using fpc!! Where else can you do that?

I know it isn’t always easy but I want to do what is best for the #fpc community, even if it takes some extra effort on my part. The #fpc channel and people in it represent the fpc project. Every word sent to the channel reflects not only upon our community, but upon me as well.

We need more people who can help improve the channel. I staunchly believe that only people who are willing to both learn pascal and do projects with it are qualified to represent this amazing compiler written in pascal.

I firmly believe that the discourse in the channel should be controlled by humans who belong there. The Internet has hundreds of thousands of places to chat about all sorts of things. The number of places where we can chat about using pascal without being ridiculed are few and far between.

We have a right to talk about fpc/pascal related things and socialize without being interrupted,bothered, surveilled or harrassed by non pascal users who have a lot more choices of places to go than we do.

Once again I cordially invite all pascal programmers who can abide by the channel rules to join us.

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Alexander Stohr
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HSN wrote 5 lines
Hello everyone this is Joanna I discovered fpc and Lazarus around 2014. [...]

I cant see any references to people that spoke up previously nor can I see any hard reference to issues that those people spoke about. That together means, I can see no substantial dealing and neither any advances in the whole subject brewing here.

Sorry - i could have saved a good bunch of my time by NOT reading the response.
Will that be given any chance for an improvement? Is a noticeable improvement to expect?

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Ralf Quint
to HSN: Hello everyone this is Joanna I discovered fpc and Lazarus around 2014. Before that I was…
HSN wrote
Hello everyone this is Joanna

That was obvious...

I discovered fpc and Lazarus around 2014. Before that I was involved with online gaming and programming bots.

That explains a lot...
(And just for the record, I am using Free Pascal since at least 1997, when it was still "just" a 386 code producing clone of Turbo Pascal and still named FPK (Florian's Pascal Kompiler, IIRC the first copyright statements back in those days)

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I don't care personally for any IRC channel (nor Discord, Slack, or anything along those lines), but it seems that you have taken a very dictatorial and oppressive view and thus actions on the IRC channel, which seem to be rather detrimental and contrary to your stated intention of "promoting FPC"...

For example, a lot of people might just be "lurking", simply because they are new to (Free)Pascal, as well as not being able to speak and properly write in English, because it is not their native language. You are excluding and downright chastise those people for being newbies. Not very inclusive and inviting...

Beside that people might not be able to tell you what they are working on, as there simply might not be a specific project, as they just might wanna work. But this is for you apparently just another reason to slap them in the face and ban them.

Bottom line is that it is YOU who is "orchestrating drama" and you don't seem to grasp that your actions are in effect malicious to anyone in the project, be it developers or users.

Ralf

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