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The FPC community website : opportunity to fix and improve

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Cephas Atheos

G'day everyone!

I've raised this issue with the developers over the past few days, and I didn't think to make it available here as well. I apologise for the oversight. (If you *have* seen this message before, then that would be a good example of what I'd like to improve!)

Please take a look at the message below, and if you have thoughts, comments, or suggestions, please feel free to discuss them.

Please note, this is supposed to be a positive and helpful move and suggestion, it's not just taking pot-shots at the site or the community (that's you!). So please do understand I'm deliberately trying to be fairly light-hearted as much as possible. However, the issues really are serious, as I think you all know!

Thanks to the developers who have already given much of their time and thoughts towards the suggestions. I hope you guys can provide some much-needed "non-developer" suggestions and perspectives. I'm particularly keen to hear from new users and novices about your experiences and how it can be improved!

If you have any questions about what's already been discussed, I can provide a very SHORT précis of what's been covered already; but I think it will be different here.

I hope to see and hear from you in the next few days and weeks.

Warm regards from ɹǝpun uʍop,
Pete
(Peter Naus aka Cephas Atheos)

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G'day everyone,

As you may be aware, there are a number of significant problems with the FPC community site.

For new users, it's a bit of a minefield, and isn't a really good introduction to the wonderful FPC community.

I'd like to offer my support and assistance in cleaning up the pages, fixing links and server errors, and generally helping to bring the site (possibly kicking and screaming! :) up to scratch.

I'm positive the folks responsible for the site just have too much on their hands, I know exactly how that can sneak up on you!

I'm a semi-retired hardware specialist and software (delphi) developer (30+ years of Turbo Pascal and Delphi), just getting into FPC (and OS X) after a decade of watching and hoping Embarcadero would focus on small developers again. (yeah, that went well - US$3,550 for the latest IDE!! Even TPB choked on that!)

I've also designed and built a number of websites (mainly primary schools, small businesses, and my own business site), using ONLY stable, known–good tools (no fancy flash, dreamweaver, or any of that crap) to make robust, usable sites. A touch of PHP wouldn't go astray, either. (I'm sure that future directions can be discussed once the main pages are back up and running again. But that is a discussion we need to have one day… Just sayin'…).

I definitely have the time, the passion, and I'm pretty sure I have the skills to at least fix the current problems, and I guess I'd like to be involved later in the future, although that will need everyone's input.

For now, I'd like to offer what I've got, gratis, as a way of saying "thanks" to everyone who's helped me with my pascal issues. I've requested access formally through the webpage, but I haven't heard anything yet, so I'm hoping a general message to the list will help to focus the issue a bit more clearly. I'd really like to start right away – the low hanging fruit can be hit in a day or so of work, and then we can see and prioritise the rest. But right now, I want to stop new users going away frustrated!

Thanks for reading this far. I hope to see and hear most of you online real soon. And I look forward to helping in some small way to bring FPC to the people who will benefit most.

Cheers,
Pete from ɹǝpun uʍop

Peter Naus (, )

P.S. My apologies for "shotgunning" or cross-posting this request, but I really want to make sure I reach the right folks with this. Thanks for your understanding.

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Bernd
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2012/9/27 Cephas Atheos :

I'd like to offer my support and assistance in cleaning up the pages, fixing links and server errors, and generally helping to bring the site (possibly kicking and screaming! :) up to scratch.

Although I am not in the position to say anything authoritative in this matter I personally would very much like to see the website being improved by somebody who has the necessary time and the dedication to do this. I can remember this topic comes up every few years or so, the general consensus *seems* to be that the website could indeed be a bit better, more informative and also more modern looking but its at the very bottom of the priorities list and shortly thereafter the discussion slowly dies, everybody agrees that something could or should be done but nobody has the time to actually do it.

Now here is again somebody who is willing to contribute and *has* the time, I strongly suggest letting him do it. After all what damage could happen? It could only get better, I doubt it can get worse. Therefore I support this request.

Bernd

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