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Hello,

I am testing the crt unit on Darwin and have a question about the function ClrEol as used example ex9.
On Darwin, the line is not cleared till the end, but 67890 remain. Bug or not? How does it look on other platforms

Greetings

Dr. Karl-Michael Schindler
FB Physik, Experimentelle Physik III
Martin-Luther-Universität Halle-Wittenberg
Tel.: ++49 (0) 345 - 55 25563

I am testing the crt unit on Darwin and have a question about the function ClrEol as used example ex9. On Darwin, the line is not cleared till the end, but 67890 remain. Bug or not? How does it look on other platforms

Crt is only meant for use with Linux, since it was never fixed for FreeBSD.

Hi there,

What is actually the idea about further developments of the IDE, with my particular interest in Darwin.
My impression is that the FPIDE is winx and linux, but not *bsd and not much further development.
Then there is lazarus with more drive, but not much *bsd stuff there too and overall appears to be more complex.
I would be willing to put some effort into it, but which route will give an IDE to darwin faster or more easily. Do you see a chance, that I could get the TextMode IDE to Darwin by myself or should I look into lazarus. Maybe, I missed something, like no way any time soon (:-)

Greetings - Michael

Karl-Michael Schindler wrote

What is actually the idea about further developments of the IDE, with my particular interest in Darwin. My impression is that the FPIDE is winx and linux, but not *bsd and not much further development.

The problem is that the two people who did the main development of the ide, don't have any time at all anymore to work on it. So the textmode ide development is indeed stalled currently.

Then there is lazarus with more drive, but not much *bsd stuff there too and overall appears to be more complex.

Yes, it's a complete gui environment with forms designer etc.

I would be willing to put some effort into it, but which route will give an IDE to darwin faster or more easily. Do you see a chance, that I could get the TextMode IDE to Darwin by myself or should I look into lazarus. Maybe, I missed something, like no way any time soon (:-)

Personally, I think it would be more useful to get XCode (and afterwards possibly Interface Builder) support working on Mac OS X. However, I don't have a clue as to how to accomplish this. I guess the xcode-users list at
"http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/xcode-users" would be a good place to start.

You are of course free to pursue whichever project you find most interesting.

Jonas

What is actually the idea about further developments of the IDE, with my particular interest in Darwin. My impression is that the FPIDE is winx and linux, but not *bsd and not much further development.

The textmode IDE is effectively frozen, since there is no maintainer.

Then there is lazarus with more drive, but not much *bsd stuff there too and overall appears to be more complex.

Both Lazarus and the textmode IDE work with FreeBSD, less with the other ones.

If you want to give lazarus a try, I will help.

Mattias

Given that Darwin is a GUI environment, I would propose to put efforts in Lazarus. Lazarus runs on BSD, and if GTK exists for Darwin, I don't think it should be a lot of work to get it to run on Darwin.

If you want to make a native widget set for Lazarus, this will be more work, of course.

Michael.

The textmode ide is probably much easier because it already runs on FreeBSD. Lazarus is much harder if you want to use and support a native widget set. OTOH lazarus is a modern IDE, while the textmode uses the look and feel of an late 80s/early 90s application so if we want a real IDE, work on lazarus :)

I tried the IDE and the problem was that it needs fvision, which didn't compile since it contains 386 assembler. Correct me if I am wrong.

80's/90's interface wouldn't be to bad, since my smaller kids may use tried lazarus, but somehow I managed to screw up the whole fpc stuff. Just recovering. Should the lazarus directory be located within the fpc directory next to compiler, rtl, ... or outside? I suspect that that was the culprit.

I checked out fpc freshly, since I thought I broke it. But the same problem shows up again:

michael-pbook-ep3:~/Develop/fpc/compiler michael$ make cycle make: Fatal:: Command not found
make: Fatal:: Command not found
make: Fatal:: Command not found
make: Fatal:: Command not found
make: Fatal:: Command not found
Makefile:155: *** The Makefile doesn't support target , please run fpcmake first. Stop.

This most likely means that "fpc" is not in your path. If you don't have it anymore but still have a copy of ppcppc, use "make cycle FPC=ppcppc" (or "make cycle FPC=/full/path/to/ppcppc" if ppcppc is not in your path).

Jonas

Hmm... I don't think it makes a difference, but I've a lazarus dir next to the fpc dir.

Marc

Thanks Jonas

indeed my PATH was broken. After fixing I went further to compile some more stuff.

sockets:
After copying the following files from rtl/freebsd to rtl/darwin, sockets (needed for fcl) compiled:

sysnr.inc
unixsock.inc

packages:
compiled well, most extra packages are still missing

fcl:
After creating the folder darwin in fcl and copying syncobjs.pp from fcl/freebsd to fcl/darwin fcl compiled, too

utils:
compilied well.

I performed tests on crt with the programs in tests/test and docs, with mixed success. Some were not correct, but no major crashes. I didn't do any test on the packages nor on fcl. I used h2pas and the first impression was it worked correct.

Michael

I have narrowed done a problem in terminfo to the external C declaration via ncurses of the variable cur_term.

According to oliebol this should be for fpk or jonas.

This is an example program:

Hi all
i found a typo bug in fvision/test/tfileio.pas:

Compiling tfileio.pas
tfileio.pas(18,65) Fatal: Syntax error, ")" expected but ";" found

Adding a "(" before the ";" heals the wound.

Greetings - Michael

Fixed