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Hi,fpc-pascal,some questions

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Your mail to 'fpc-pascal' with the subject:

The Garden of Eden

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Hello. Seems that either someone is sending mail (probably SPAM) to fpc-devel and fpc-pascal with my e-mail address forged on them, or your listserver has something broken...

I've received few following kind of messages recently:

Some admin could contact me directly to solve this problem. My e-mail address is: mhamalai(at)ratol(dot)fi

=- ccr/TNSP^pWp
] http://www.tnsp.org/
] Show me your "realtime raytracer in Java"
] and I'll show you my CBM 8032, 1 MHz!

Oh. Sorry for disturbing you all. :)

=- ccr/TNSP^pWp
] ccr(at)tnsp(dot)org | http://www.tnsp.org/
] Show me your "realtime raytracer in Java"
] and I'll show you my CBM 8032, 1 MHz!

I've also received this message if it helps you for anything. I think that the mailing list error responses are begin sent to the list itself not to the person who has made the error, which I think would be the right procedure.

adrian15.

Hello!

Matti Hamalainen wrote

Hello. Seems that either someone is sending mail (probably SPAM) to

(snip)

I don't know who the moderator is but he could maybe clarify this. As Windows E-Mail worms are again active (just today I got two e-mails (Worm Klez.E) wich attempted to infect my Linux box ;-)) maybe some of them is trying to "use" the mailing list beause someone has it in his addressbook. So I can't imagine that someone else is repeatingly trying to send a big (>25k) message to the list.

> Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive > notification of the moderator's decision.

The mistake is clearly that the error message is posted to the list and not only to the originator but in the virus case the originator address is most often a fake.

In any case, I find the measure to hold big messages is a good thing, at least regarding the virus threat.

Any comments from the list moderator wich may have already reviewed the mails?

Have a nice day and keep developing!
Konstantin Münning ,,,
-------------------------------/'^'\------------------------------------ www.muenning.com ( o o )
--------------------------oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------- Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers.
-- Leonard Brandwein
(-O-)
The man who follows the crowd will usually get no further than the crowd. The man who walks alone is likely to find himself in places no one has ever been. -- Alan Ashley-Pitt

Konstantin Muenning wrote

I don't know who the moderator is but he could maybe clarify this. As

You ask, we serve ;)

As you know, most virusses nowadays scan the whole harddisk of the victim (like browsercaches etc) to find email addresses. Next, they pick a random address as "From", a random address as "To" and send themself on to the next victim. When the "To" address becomes one of the fpc-mailing lists, the mailing list software always blocks the message (as it dods with all messages > 25kb) and waits for the moderator to decide whether or not the message should be sent to the list).

At the same time, it also sends a message to the "From" address to inform the poster (or what it thinks is the poster) that his message is being held for approval by the moderator. Since the from address is faked however, this indeed results in mails being sent to people who have nothing to do with that virus mail.

I can turn off the feature that causes these mails being sent, but that will also mean that when someone really sends a mail which is too big (or which is held for a approval because of some other reason) won't get a warning anymore either, which is not nice.

However, if you think these false warnings are too annoying, I can turn it off without any problems.

Jonas

adrian15 wrote

I've also received this message if it helps you for anything. I think that the mailing list error responses are begin sent to the list itself not to the person who has made the error, which I think would be the right procedure.

No, they are not being sent to the list, otherwise the "to" filed of those messages would contain See my other message for
the explanation.

Jonas

Hello!

Jonas Maebe wrote

You ask, we serve ;)

;-]

next victim. When the "To" address becomes one of the fpc-mailing lists, the mailing list software always blocks the message (as it dods with all messages > 25kb) and waits for the moderator to decide whether or not the message should be sent to the list).

Do you mean the "To" or the "From" address? If you mean the "To" address then all mails to the lists are blocked and are waiting to be reviewed?!?.

Yes but the behaviour here would indicate that the "From" address was also the mailing list. Or do I get something wrong?

However, if you think these false warnings are too annoying, I can turn it off without any problems.

It's not annoying for me, I think you should keep it on. I was just curious if this is a virus and I still have no ansver :-(. You probably have reviewed the mail. What was it?

Have a nice day,
Konstantin Münning ,,,
-------------------------------/'^'\------------------------------------ www.muenning.com ( o o )
--------------------------oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------- Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers.
-- Leonard Brandwein
(-O-)
The man who follows the crowd will usually get no further than the crowd. The man who walks alone is likely to find himself in places no one has ever been. -- Alan Ashley-Pitt

No, only those >25kb.

Yes. The warning messages are *not* being sent to the list (except if the "from" address was also an fpc-mailing list address, but those warning messages are blocked as well, so they don't appear on the list either). It's just that people who have the address of the mailing list somewhere on their HD are usually also subscribed tot he list as well, so they probably have the addresses of several subscribers on their computer. The virus can then pick such an address as "from" and the mailing address as "to", causing the warning message being sent to one of the subscribers (or anyone else whose email address is chosen as from address).

It's not annoying for me, I think you should keep it on. I was just curious if this is a virus and I still have no ansver :-(. You probably have reviewed the mail. What was it?

It's not one mail, there are about 4-10 of such mails being sent (and blocked) to the fpc mailing lists. And yes, they are being sent by virusses (and contain the virus as an attachment, which is why they are so big). However, these vriusses are not on the computer of the person in "from" field, since those addresses were just randomly chosen from the infected person's HD.

The bottom line is: you can delete any sich mails you received and be certain that as long as the virusses are >25kb, they will not be spread by any of the fpc mailing lists.

Jonas

Hello. Seems that either someone is sending mail (probably SPAM) to fpc-devel and fpc-pascal with my e-mail address forged on them, or your listserver has something broken...

They send mail to fpc-devel with fpc-pascal as sender (or the other way around). That confuses the list

Marco van de Voort wrote

They send mail to fpc-devel with fpc-pascal as sender (or the other way around). That confuses the list

Those are actually the least troublesome for the subscribers, because in that case all warnings are sent to fpc-devel-admin resp. fpc-pascal-admin. So they're only annoying to me, nothing appears on the list or is sent to the subscribers.

Jonas

Ok, thanks to everyone for clearing this up. :)

=- ccr/TNSP^pWp
] ccr(at)tnsp(dot)org | http://www.tnsp.org/
] Show me your "realtime raytracer in Java"
] and I'll show you my CBM 8032, 1 MHz!

Your mail to 'fpc-pascal' with the subject:

A IE 6.0 patch

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Worm Klez.E immunity

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