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binutils for avr 8 bit

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Michael Schnell
to Daniel Sapundjiev
Daniel Sapundjiev wrote
Can someone help me with the 8 bit AVR.

Do you really plan to sell a device in such great quantities that it makes sense do invest a lot of software engineering effort in an 8 Bit arch instead of one of the (better) supported 32 Bit archs, just to save some cent per piece ?

-Michael

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Sven Barth
to Michael Schnell
"Michael Schnell" wrote 7 lines
On 05/23/2014 07:39 PM, Daniel Sapundjiev wrote: > > > Can someone help me with the 8 bit AVR. Do you really plan to sell a device in such great quantities that it

makes sense do invest a lot of software engineering effort in an 8 Bit arch instead of one of the (better) supported 32 Bit archs, just to save some cent per piece ?

Where did he say that he wants to sell anything? Maybe he just wants to try FPC on AVR 8-bit for fun?

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Sven

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Michael Schnell
to Sven Barth
Sven Barth wrote
Where did he say that he wants to sell anything? Maybe he just wants to try FPC on AVR 8-bit for fun?

OK :-) :-) :-)
(For me, this fun would be too expensive in terms of engineering effort.)

Have fun,
-Michael

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Sven Barth
to Michael Schnell
"Michael Schnell" wrote 5 lines
On 05/26/2014 11:37 AM, Sven Barth wrote: > > > Where did he say that he wants to sell anything? Maybe he just wants to

try FPC on AVR 8-bit for fun?

> OK :-) :-) :-) (For me, this fun would be too expensive in terms of engineering effort.)

Why? I'd try it as well if I'd have the time. At least I could then help with improving/finishing the AVR port :)

Regards,
Sven

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Nikolay Nikolov
to Sven Barth
Sven Barth wrote 17 lines
Am 26.05.2014 11:42 schrieb "Michael Schnell" < >: > > On 05/26/2014 11:37 AM, Sven Barth wrote: >> >> >> Where did he say that he wants to sell anything? Maybe he just wants to try FPC on AVR 8-bit for fun? >> > OK :-) :-) :-) > (For me, this fun would be too expensive in terms of engineering effort.) Why? I'd try it as well if I'd have the time. At least I could then help with improving/finishing the AVR port :)

And so would I, if I didn't have the i8086 port to work on ;-) Besides, it's the next logical step for the compiler to become 32/64/16/8-bit :)

Also, 6502 becomes even closer ;-)

Nikolay

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Ralf Quint
to Michael Schnell: Do you really plan to sell a device in such great quantities that it makes sense do…
Michael Schnell wrote 8 lines
On 05/23/2014 07:39 PM, Daniel Sapundjiev wrote: > > Can someone help me with the 8 bit AVR. > Do you really plan to sell a device in such great quantities that it makes sense do invest a lot of software engineering effort in an 8 Bit arch instead of one of the (better) supported 32 Bit archs, just to save some cent per piece ?

The fact is that the 8bit AVR (Atmel) chips are well supported and more than just "some cent per piece" cheaper, and they work with a wider voltage range then any 32bit chip out there (without expensive circuitry to get the same voltage "agnostic"). They are the base, in form of the ATmega328(P) and ATmega32u4 MCUs, for the most common Arduino boards and their derivatives, the Arduino Uno and Arduino Leonardo. Very common, and very cheap... ;-)

Ralf

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Michael Schnell
to Ralf Quint
Ralf Quint wrote
Very common, and very cheap... ;-)

And hence very useful when you want do do mass products.

But for any projects below 10.000 pieces to do I would try to take advantage of the benefits of modern 32 Bit archs E.g. very versatile PIC 32 chips (MIPS architecture) start @ $1.50 .

-Michael

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