I've reported a mountain of bugs (via the web-interface on the website) in the last week: not a one has been fixed or even apparently checked out... I

All bugs entered via the web interface are automatically also mailed to all developers, including the people working on the IDE.

am wondering what sort of time frame I can expect for a response...?

It really depends. Some may be easy to fix and may be fixed soon, others may take longer. You will only get a response

a) if more info is needed
b) once it's fixed

There is no "confirmation procedure" where we send you a mail to notify you that we've received the bugreport and are looking into it.

Do the IDE developers read here?

Yes, they do (Pierre and Gàbor are the main IDE developers, Peter sometimes also works on it). Note that Pierre and Peter also work on the rest of the compiler and that we surely could use an extra person or two that want to work on the IDE. As you have experienced, it still needs quite a bit of work.

Jonas

Work? Work. Work! ;) Can you help you?

At 15:33 20/10/00 , vous avez écrit:

Hey, wait a minute!
This is free software... and thus you can't get any warranty on fast reply from the developpers (all developpers also have a job, which is not FPC based!)
As Jonas pointed out, you won't get a reply to all bug report unless more info is needed or when it is fixed !
Nevertheless the bug database is one of our best ways to get improovement of both the compiler and the IDE.

Do the IDE developers read here?

Yes, we read the devel list !

And we do fix bugs as we can (mainly find time for it) Gabor sent me a new buch of fixes october 18 to add possiblity to insert the HTML version of the FPC doc in the next release !

I also removed several little bugs lately,
but as you say there are still many and time is very sparse for the three main developpers:
Berczi Gabor
Peter Vreman
and myself Pierre Muller

(Most of my recent work concerning the IDE had to do with Linux version of the IDE
which is now much less unstable as before !)

As I said in my previous mail, we would very much like external contributions
to this project.
i can even add the this developper list is quite open to any person that would like
to join... if you have free time.
If you don't have free time (which wouldn't be surprising) please don't blame the developpers because they cannot spend all their time on this project.

Sure! Have a look at the reported bugs on the web, try to fix them and submit the patches. The biggest problem with this is that we still don't have a working freely distributable version of Free Vision.

Jonas

Craig Hart wrote

Hi.. OK, who is working on the IDE...?

Mainly Gabor and Pierre Muller.

I've reported a mountain of bugs (via the web-interface on the website) in the last week: not a one has been fixed or even apparently checked out... I am wondering what sort of time frame I can expect for a response...?

For the IDE this is typically a bit longer than for the compiler, since A) Less people work on it.
B) Gabor has a very bad network connection, so responses are always slower

But all developers get all bugs, so there will always be a response. (albeit a little late :) )

Do the IDE developers read here?

Pierre Muller certainly reads this, Gabor I don't know.

Michael.

Thanks for clarifying everything. Much appreciated.

No problem. In the mean time, please keep those bugreports on coming! :)

Jonas

OK, excuse me if you feel blamed yourself by my answer, this really means that I misunderstood your mail
and I am quite happy to recognize I was wrong.

Its quite difficult to stay cool when you indeed feel that the IDE develops too
slowly and this sometimes makes me nervous.

Sorry about this.

But Michael say (rus: skazal) me about not patching, because you (developers of fpc) work. Very _urgent_ work. (Distrub denied ;) ) And i'm don't catch (rus: trogayu) bugs repository. and now i'm might fix bugs and submit this patch on bug repository?

Hi..

OK, who is working on the IDE...?

I've reported a mountain of bugs (via the web-interface on the website) in the last week: not a one has been fixed or even apparently checked out... I am wondering what sort of time frame I can expect for a response...?

Do the IDE developers read here?

Craig

Thanks for clarifying everything. Much appreciated.

Hi..

Hey, wait a minute! This is free software... and thus you can't get any warranty on fast reply from the developpers (all developpers also have a job, which is not FPC based!)

Hey wait a minute yourself! All I did was ask a simple question. I didn't DEMAND instant answers, I was not rude, and nobody else has been nasty in their response. Perehaps you shouldd take a moment to realize that I'm not making a personal attack on you or anyone else; I'm simply a newcomer who has asked a very simple question.

If you don't have free time (which wouldn't be surprising) please don't blame the developpers because they cannot spend all their time on this project.

Hey, I didn't blame anyone. Please don't be so nasty. That sort of snide personal attack is totally unwarranted.

Craig

You can send patches to Pierre Muller or Gabor, they will apply the patches after testing them.

Michael.

But Gaber have low connection ;) So, better send to Pierre ;)

ok. on holiday, i'm make patches ...

At 17:02 20/10/00 , vous avez écrit:

But Gaber have low connection ;) So, better send to Pierre ;) ok. on holiday, i'm make patches ...

Yes its definitively better because
I also apply the patches from Gabor already !

And last. PLEASE better inform about changes in source tree of fpc and him tools. It's very urgent for other developers and "patchmakers". ok? Better say about changing string (i.e. number of string and filename).

Thanks.

you wrote

And last. PLEASE better inform about changes in source tree of fpc and him tools. It's very urgent for other developers and "patchmakers". ok? Better say about changing string (i.e. number of string and filename).

But this is the purpose of the logs, no?

Logs report about fix problem... Where?? Number of string for find other developers... It is IMHO. It's better use. Just working ;)

ok ;)

What is ncal.pas? ncal.pas without comment in begin.

you wrote

What is ncal.pas? ncal.pas without comment in begin.

It will be fixed by my next commit (in a few days probably).