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Re: Inter Process Communication

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Jason P Sage
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote 5 lines
Did you check the O-PSP : = http://www.psp.furtopia.org/cgi-bin/psp/news.psp and http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3D145841. The O-PSP is going to handle the requests using multi-threading = mechanism while it doesn't need to install any apache module.

Currently, =

It is developed for Linux. So, having a big application (regarding its

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size) isn't a problem. I used the "named pipes" to communicate between

=

the dispatcher main application.

I'll look into it. Thank You.

> Jason P Sage Wrote: > I definitely see the advantages of the TCP/IP between the web server

and

> the application for scalability - etc. and I will do that even if I

make

> my own web server - simply because that makes sense. > = But as far as I know, the TCP/IP has some (huge) overheads and reduces

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the performance specially if your site has many visitors.

Excellent point. This is the main motivator to experiment with a few different "solutions" - specifically a webserver just for FreePascal applications.

The CGI version "Thin client-Big Multithreaded application" - using file IPC - Gives Portability, reasonably fast. This is stable - and I use it every day - all the time.

FastCGI implementation - allows separating application server from web server - has drawbacks with TCP overhead like you mentioned.

Writing a web server - not necessarily a replacement for apache, lighttpd, or others - but as a compliment - a specific application web server - written totally in FreePascal - would allow static stuff to go through normal web server - and application stuff to be launched either through another port or another server altogether.

Trust this: I will do tests with the latest PSP code - and if I like what I see - I may heavily become a proponent of it.

Ultimately - I'd like to be able to make applications that can be deployed: CGI, FastCGI, and directly self contained.

One thing is certain - FreePascal is up to the task - and that regardless of the "technology" used for the web stuff - creating smart caching for anything that can be cached on the server has proved to give the most dramatic performance boosts of all the "things" I've changed thus far.

Example: I have a multi-Language supported Menu/security navigation system. This person see one menu, while another login sees others - all dynamic, based on user and language. Because this is relatively static until you change the system menu or the user's permissions, I made it so this tiny "portion" of the generated html is cached per user. The increase in performance was outstanding and cut the total mean time in half for pages that contain the navigation menu.

But I digress...

Thank you for your responses

Best Regards,
Jason P Sage

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Jason P Sage

I misquoted my last response to the mailing list.

It wasn't Felipe it was I was responding to about PSP and Inter-process communication.

My Apologies to both of you.

"Aavani" and "Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho"

No Harm Meant.

Jason P Sage

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