I was told that in the next not yet released Lazarus version there will be a platform independent feature that lets you create daemons (applications without user interface).

I need to do something like this.

Is there any documentation on how this works ?

Is the sourcecode available somewhere ?

Thanks a lot for any infos,

-Michael

I'll send you some in private.

Is the sourcecode available somewhere ?

It's in SVN.

Michael.

Great !

I suppose this is the sourcecode of close to everything.

So I need to recompile the Lazarus IDE and the libraries (and maybe the FP Compiler and its libraries as well). sound a little bit scary.

I was told an additional "daemon" project will appear in the "New" menu. This sounds really great, but it would be nice to see what is happening without having to swap to a pre-alpha version of the IDE. Do you think I can do some tests just using a few additional units I can include into a "command line program" projects ?

How can access the SVN ?

Unfortunately I suppose I can't access a Version Control System as here we ave a Firewall that only allows to do http and ftp via a proxy.

Thanks _A_LOT_ !!!

-Michael

Is there a reason why you prefer sending such things in private? I'd be also interested in this documentation as well as in the article about "how to use fpcunit (for beginners)" (mentioned in another thread).

Kind reagrds
Burkhard

Yes, there is.

This is text which is published in a journal and is under copyright. I am not allowed to send this to just anyone. A couple of people is OK, but I cannot make it publicly available...

Michael.

Sorry for asking .. just remember, you already answered this question at least once .. ;-)

However, of course I'd prefer to get those docs in private over not having them at all :-) So if it fits into the "couple of people" quantum, I'd really apprecite, if you could send them to me, too (especially the daemon ones).

Regards
Burkhard

Michael Schnell wrote

How can access the SVN ? Unfortunately I suppose I can't access a Version Control System as here we ave a Firewall that only allows to do http and ftp via a proxy.

IIRC SVN also can use the http protocol (exactly for this reason).

See http://www.freepascal.org/develop.var#svn for details on using SVN -- note that the command use an URL starting with http://. For Windows there is also a nice graphical Shell integrated interface to SVN, called TortoiseSVN.

Also the repository can also be browsed at http://www.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/.

Regards,

Bram

Note that some proxies are broken or badly configured and don't pass webdav comments correctly.

My company has such a broken proxy. As a workaround one can use the https protocol, which proxies leave untouched. But AFAIK the freepascal server doesn't listen on the https port.

Vincent

See http://www.freepascal.org/develop.var#svn for details on using SVN -- note that the command use an URL starting with http://. For Windows there is also a nice graphical Shell integrated interface to SVN, called TortoiseSVN.

Using TortoiseSVN I get "could not connect to server (http://snv.freepascal.org) if I try to do SNV checkout.

-Michael

Using TortoiseSVN I get "could not connect to server (http://snv.freepascal.org) if I try to do SNV checkout.

p.s. Does TortoiseSVN use the proxy configuration from Explorer ? With http://snv.freepascal.org Explorer does show me the Free Pascal home page.

-Michael

There is a typo: use http://svn.freepascal.org

Vincent

There is a typo: use http://svn.freepascal.org

Right That is what I did. with the correct address I get the error message after a waiting time of about a minute. Using a wrong address (like snv...) I get a different error message within a second.

So the DNS can resolve the name.

-Michael

The URL for tortoiseSVN is

http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/trunk

See

http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus#Connect_to_Source_Repository_with_SVN_.28replaces_section_on_connection_to_CVS.29

For more explanations.

Michael.

The URL for tortoiseSVN is http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/trunk

Right. That is exactly what I did.

The other error message I got was "PROFIND request failed on '/svn/fpc/trunk'.
The long delay before the error is displayed suggests that the server does not answer at all - not even with an error notification, wile explorer does display
http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/trunk as a directory tree

-Michael

That suggests a broken proxy.

Micha

That is the error I get too, because of a broken or misconfigured proxy.

Vincent

This has happened before and some people could work around it using the port 8080.

svn co http://svn.freepascal.org:8080/svn/fpc/trunk

Doesn't work here though:
svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/fpc/trunk'
svn: PROPFIND of '/svn/fpc/trunk': 501 Not Implemented (http://svn.freepascal.org:8080)

Vincent

That is because www.freepascal.org and svn.freepascal.org both refer to the same IP address, and the web server has apparently not be configured to have different virtual hosts for these domains. In particular

http://www.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/trunk/ and
http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/trunk/

both yield the SVN repository and

http://www.freepascal.org/ and
http://svn.freepascal.org/

both yield the FreePascal website.

Note that you can browse the SVN http urls given above also with your webbrowser. But as Vincent remarks, SVN might still fail because of the proxy badly handling 'Webdav comments'. Unfortunately the server currently doesn't seem to listen to the https port, neither to an alternative port such as port 81 (as suggested on http://subversion.tigris.org/faq.html#proxy).

Regards,

Bram

(Ok, I now see Vincents reply mentioning port 8080.)

Regards,

Bram

http://subversion.tigris.org/faq.html#proxy

This took me a bit further.

After setting the proxy url and port I now get this when tying to do a checkout:

Error REPORT request failed on '/svn/fpc/!svn/vcc/default' Error REPORT of /'svn/fpc/fpc/!svn/vcc/default': 400 Bad Request (http://svn/freepascal.org)

28 KB transferred

And now the folder icon of the c:\FPC directory in Explorer got a green "checked" sign (no idea what this means).

but it is still empty.

-Michael

Note that some proxies require special authentication methods (i.e. not just username/password), and it may not be possible to get SVN working with these (with reasonable effort, at least), unless you can change the proxy configuration to something else. Specifically, I'm talking about proxies expecting windows-specific support for single sign-on (domain sign-on) obtaining logon information from the client.

Tomas

This has happened before and some people could work around it using the port 8080.

Setting the proxy in "servers" in fact started the communication to the SVN server.but nonetheless it ends up with an error (see the other mail)

Error REPORT request failed on '/svn/fpc/!svn/vcc/default' Error REPORT of /'svn/fpc/fpc/!svn/vcc/default': 400 Bad Request (http://svn/freepascal.org)

28 KB transferred

with ":8080" I get exactly the same error as without.

-Michael

Micha Nelissen napsal(a):

... where "broken" may include "proxy deliberately configured to use proprietary authentication protocols"... ;-)

Tomas

This (HTTP error 400) most probably indicates the "broken proxy" scenario mentioned by Vincent.

Tomas

As 28 K data actually is being transferred, I don't think that what I have is a proxy problem any more. The exclamation mark in '/svn/fpc/!svn/vcc/default' seems funny to me.

-Michael

This (HTTP error 400) most probably indicates the "broken proxy" scenario mentioned by Vincent.

So I supposedly am lost :(

.Michael

Saw somwhere (I think) that there is/may be a problem with later versions of SVN client re using proxies...FWIW I'm using svn CL 1.4.2 & tortoise 1.1.7 to access fpc svn, from behind firewall with proxy, port 80 - our proxy doesnt need any other authentication- & it works ok. Before I had the proxy settings right I saw similar errors to the ones you are getting. HTH regards John

This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you.

John wrote

Saw somwhere (I think) that there is/may be a problem with later versions of SVN client re using proxies...FWIW I'm using svn CL 1.4.2 & tortoise 1.1.7 to access fpc svn, from behind firewall with proxy, port 80 - our proxy doesnt need any other authentication- & it works ok. Before I had the proxy settings right I saw similar errors to the ones you are getting. HTH regards John

So I supposedly am lost :(

-Michael

Michael Schnell napsal(a):

Not necessarily - you can get the latest version of the source files (if limited to small number) using your browser (directly accessing the SVN repository tree via http or using viewcvs.cgi). Furthermore, you can always download the full zipped sources updated daily from our FTP server.

Tomas

Well, or some kind soul sets up https based svn on idefix :)

I did d/l the latest daily snapshot zip just to get started.

Thanks,
-Michael

Hi Michael,

Don't know if this helps, but i faced your music more than a year ago, and my problem resolved later on.

I later replied to someone who faced the same music here:

HTH,

Funky Beast